June 21, 2002

Bro. John:

I know lengthy emails are cumbersome for you, but I am really full today from reading Revelation and wanted to share it.

That 1990 tape "The Will of God" started me out this morning with something and it has not quit all day. I am feeling so full that I can hardly contain it all. I think what really stirred my soul in hearing some of that message you were preaching is the realization that one day the ONLY thing that will survive is the Will of God. Now I know that in word, but when God starts stirring in your soul and making those thoughts a reality, whew! On this tape you were talking about the mark of the beast. How in that day there will be no buying or selling except one have that mark. The whole world today is consumed with money. It has become an idol for most. But Jesus said, "And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name." But what is money going to be in that day without that mark? The Will of God is all that is going to survive. And those who are in it.

How blessed we are! All the things that He is confirming for us. About the body of Christ and how He does not dwell in temples made with hands. And then reading in Revelation how Xnty and all those places that are made by hands and those who do not come out of Babylon, even God's precious people, will be destroyed. But how would we have ever known any of this about Xnty without the mercy of God showing us! Oh, Bro. John, it makes me weep for our brothers and sisters who are prisoners. And it makes me thankful for Jesus. And it makes me thankful for the holy Ghost. And it makes me hate Xnty!

The theme of your message you said on the "Will of God" tape was "Are you ready for the blessings of God?" Well, when I read in Revelation how it was said of the destruction of Babylon "Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye holy apostles and prophets; for God hath avenged you on her", I had to ask myself if I was ready for that blessing. To be ready for that blessing is to be holy and righteous and faithful unto the Lord. And to be in the Will of God. I hope to see that day and be counted among the "holy" for the Lord.

I cannot tell you how good it feels today. Just to be thinking about Jesus. To be drawn into Him and to have a desire to meet the goals He has set for us. And as you said, Bro. John, those feelings come from Him. I pray that He will establish His Will in my heart and that one day I will be worthy to be counted among these:

"And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night."

"And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death."

In that meeting in Dec. 1990, there were two people and maybe even more, whose lives went astray from the Will of God. They didn't overcome "by the blood of the Lamb." It is sad, but it showed me that we can sit under the anointing and hear wonderful messages from God - - but if we do not recognize that anointing and it is not established in our hearts, we will be the ones "missing" one day. God help us to live clean and holy unto the Lord. And love not our lives, but His Life in us!

We have so much to be thankful for and so much to look forward to in Jesus - the Faithful and True!! Are we ready for MORE blessings of God?

Sister Sandy

June 21, 2002

Bro. John:

I was listening to a tape of one of your sermons from 1990 - "The Will of God" - and among the things you talked about were things in Revelation, (i.e., the mark of the beast) and it caused me to go to Revelation 16-22 and read some this morning. While I was reading, the vision of all that is coming on this earth made me sad and made me joyous. It really stirred up in me how much God hates Xnty and how much we should too. It has robbed so many people! I talked with my 91-year old mother last night, and what Xnty has done to her saddens my heart. I was telling her about how we are studying the OT and how exciting it is. But, of course, there was no fellowship! The only thing she could say was, "The Old Testament conceals what the New Testament reveals." Well, that is sad because I know that Xn sayings like that have become rhetorical in her. But, Bro. John, because of God's mercy, the beauty of the OT is not concealed for me - - not because of my own understanding - - but because of the knowledge and understanding of the holy Ghost in me! That cruel robber, the god of Xnty has caused her to trade understanding for dead rhetoric. That is all she knows. She is a sinner and does not even know it!

I am thankful for the mercy God has shown to me - but it does sadden my heart that so many people have fallen under the plague of Xnty. When reading Revelation, that is what Xnty feels like to me - a plague. But when Jesus comes riding on that white horse, "in righteousness he doth judge and make war." I know we are in training for that day to come. The following verse reminded me of what you said a few weeks ago when Jesus asked you what you wanted. You replied, "Let me be faithful." Whew! That is no small thing, Bro. John. I saw this while I was reading:

[14] These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.

Nothing but the Will of God established in our hearts is going to save us. And being faithful. Jesus never lost sight of the Will of God while he was here on earth, and that is what he will be carrying out when he returns in righteousness to gather His People! Praise God!!

When Jesus said a few weeks ago, "There is not anything coming on this earth that I do not have Power over", I realized at that moment that He was also saying that there is not anything on this earth NOW that He does not have Power over! Everything was created by His Power and nothing will stand against His Power. Whew! Praise God!

Lord Jesus, let me be faithful, too.

Sister S. S.

June 20, 2002

This is a letter written to a minsiter who has been touched by God, but who has not yet taken that last step of faith to come out of Christianity as he is being led to do by Christ.

Dear Sir:

I was invited to visit your web site, and I did. I was blessed to read many of the things on your site that were true and that I know you must have received from God. God's children need every morsel of right that we can provide.

If I may, I would like to add to your faith with this short observation. My earnest prayer is that you will hear in this the word of God and sense the sincere love that comes with it.

It is not true, as you state in your comments on Romans 8, that the Spirit of Christ is different from the holy Spirit. There is only one Spirit that is of God. This means, of course, that no one is born again until he receives the holy Ghost (at which time, as you rightly acknowledge, one will speak in tongues).

Brother D_____, the entire religion of Christianity (Xty) has never been of God. It arose after the days of the apostles and, historically, it has been Satan's chief instrument for keeping God's children divided and confused. The foundation of that godless religion is the doctrine that a person is born again before being baptized by the holy Ghost into the body of Christ, as Paul taught in 1Cor. 12:13. This is the true meaning of Paul's word, "If any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of His."

As long as you yield to the pressure of Xty to teach that people are right with God (in possession of the Spirit of Christ) before God has given His witness that they are right (the baptism of the holy Ghost), you are still within the circle of Xty's evil dominion. "Come out of her, My people" means (among many other things) to come out of the religion that tells people they are born again before God bears them witness.

Jesus has called us out of Xty, and leaving that error means to leave behind its chief cornerstone: men telling men that they are right with God instead of waiting for God to give His witness.

Some of the things you are teaching lead nowhere inside the white-washed walls of Xty, but lead out of that city completely. Amen! And those of us who are already on the outside are praying with tears that the humbling grace of God that has been shown to us will also be given to other of God's children still within that abomination, that they will hear and understand His word ever more perfectly and that they will continue on the road of obedience to Jesus, who is waiting for them outside the camp.

Your non-Christian servant of Jesus,

John David Clark, Sr.

June 3, 2002

Here is Haggai 1:1-7:

1 In the second year of Darius the king, in the sixth month, in the first day of the month, came the word of the LORD by Haggai the prophet unto Zerubbabel the son of Shealtiel, governor of Judah, and to Joshua the son of Josedech, the high priest, saying,
2 Thus speaketh the LORD of hosts, saying, This people say, The time is not come, the time that the LORD's house should be built.
3 Then came the word of the LORD by Haggai the prophet, saying,
4 Is it time for you, O ye, to dwell in your cieled houses, and this house lie waste?
5 Now therefore thus saith the LORD of hosts; Consider your ways.
6 Ye have sown much, and bring in little; ye eat, but ye have not enough; ye drink, but ye are not filled with drink; ye clothe you, but there is none warm; and he that earneth wages earneth wages to put it into a bag with holes.
7 Thus saith the LORD of hosts; Consider your ways.

Hello Pastor John,

I woke up in the early hours of this day and started to read Haggai chapter 1. The Lord used verses 1-7 to speak to me. I have never seen those verses in this new form. Though the Lord was talking about building in the physical in the second verse at the time the verse was written but we know NOW that the LORD's building (house or temple) is the hearts of His people. The Lord reminded me that many of His children are not building themselves in their most holy faith. So many are not building their hearts for God but rather gaining material things for themselves in expense of their spiritual growth. His children are not after what the bible says in verse 9 of Hebrews “For it is a good thing that the heart be established with grace”. And because of this, verse 6 of Haggai 1 tells us the result: “Ye have sown much, and bring in little; ye eat, but ye have not enough; ye drink, but ye are not filled with drink; ye clothe you, but there is none warm; and he that earneth wages earneth wages to put it into a bag with holes.” What a terrible thing.

This part of verse 6 really struck me so hard “he that earneth wages earneth wages to put it into a bag with holes” Earn wages and put it in holes? Does this not speak of them Christians paying their tithe and offering wrongly to men, ministries, organisation that proclaim to have been sent from God? What a deadly thing to give tithes and offerings and not get blessed by it. What could have eaten up the bag to make it have holes? When I thought about this, I remembered Jesus warning in Matthew 6:19 “Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal” How I wish that my brethren entangled in Christianity will see these and think and cry out to God for help.

J O E

JOE

By remaining in and supporting Christianity (Xty), God's children are paying for their own poison. They are financing the institution that keeps them divided and honors the enemy of all righteousness instead of Jesus, our hero. It seems I can feel the nearness of the time when Jesus rescue his precious people from bondage to that evil institution just as God once came down and delivered Israel from slavery in Egypt.

God, hear our prayers for our beloved brothers and sisters inside the white-washed walls of Xty, and open their ears to His loving cry, "Come out of her, My people!"!

jdc

My Dear True Believers,

First of all, let me thank God for revealing this secret to people like you.

The Holy Bible promises to give some the hidden treasures. What you people stand for is the hidden treasure about the true and undiluted teaching of Jesus Christ. In the past we all came out to condemned the introduction of many worldly things into Christianity by the Catholics and Protestants.

This gave birth to army of penticostal churches that are springing up on daily basis, especially in my own country Nigeria. But as at today, many of them have conspicuously derailed. They are no longer satifying the body to Christ but are engaged in teachings contrary to the will of Jesus Christ.

There is urgent need for true believers to come out of Christianity. For example, today in Nigeria, people go about labelling themselves good Christians, born again Christian. Many would say "the day I was saved..." In fact the prerequisite for making heaven today in Nigeria is being a member of Penticostal Church. Some even tagged themselve true believers or living church. Honestly I do not know what is [so appealing] about their dead preachings and deceits.

When the Bible made us to realise that a father's faith would not save his son or wife, while are we now believing that become a member of a church automatically saves one?

So much for false doctrine and teachings.

I want to thank God for your site. By the grace of God, millions if not billions of true believers of Christ will know the truth. And this truth will definitely set them free as promised by Christ. (You shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free). Many are still in bondage. Many have been carried away into modern day captivity. Believing men's idea of christianity rather than Bible's idea of Christianity.

For example, the Bible says time has come for those true worshipers to worship God in spirit and truth. Why are we now going about using outwards things to depict worshiping of God? The truth is shown in your site. Being a true believer does not mean going or being a member of a church but completely and strictly adhering to Bible's teachings about the ways of Christ. Being led by the Holy spirit and not outward things.

Keep on with this good work. God almighty will open people's hearts to know the truth as shown in your site and this truth will set many captives free.

Thank you for this God's inspired idea about Jesus Christ.

Dear Sir:

You are on the right road. Keep going with Jesus.

There is one point I want to make, however, that you will be happy to learn; to wit, Christianity (Xty) never was of God. The history of God's people was not, as you suggested, a matter of Catholics and protestants introducing worldly things into Xty, for Xty was of the world from its inception. Jesus did not suffer and die to establish the religion of Xty but to make the Spirit of God available to men. Xty is that whorish religion that arose to great power with Roman Emperor Constantine's help. It claims to be the body of Christ, and has deceived billions of people over the centuries by doing so. Xty is the "great whore" of Revelation, the whore that sits confidently on a throne claiming to be the bride of Christ. Xty is that thing from which God is earnestly desires His children to flee before His mighty wrath falls upon it.

"Come out of her My people, that you be not partakers of her sins and receive none of her plagues."

Pastor John

and later...

Pastor John,

I got your mail and the clarification you made on my earlier mail to you. You are right. Jesus in all his teachings did not die to impose or establish a religion. Rather he came to truly reconcile man to God, by making available the original Spirit of God the devil drove out of man.

As long as I live, I will continue to tell people and let people visit your site to know about the simple truth so that they can flee from deception and captivity.

Thank you Pastor John for your mail.

God bless you.

Ladi in Nigeria

Ladi:

Thanks for the reply, but I have a question about your suggestion that the Devil drove the holy Spirit out of man when man first sinned. Where did you get that idea? As far as I know, the first time men received the holy Spirit was in Acts 2.

Pastor John

May 9, 2002

Bro. John:

On the way home last night, I thought about what God showed me in the meeting. He is really teaching us about where His Children are! I don't believe I ever realized until last night how much "fear", and not love (on my part), led me to the Truth. I was afraid back in 1988 before I received the holy Ghost. Afraid that the Lord was coming back, and even though I had been told that I was "saved", I knew that I was not ready to face Him. I knew the life that I was living, and I knew that it would not measure up to Jesus. At that time, more fear was there in my heart than the love for Jesus that I now cherish. I did not even know how to love Him.

What it helped me to see is that God's children imprisoned in Xnty don't know fear of, nor love for, Jesus. Xnty has turned their feelings so much into rhetoric and phrases, ceremonies and traditions of men, that they are like robots repeating what they are told to say and do. Men cannot teach the love of Jesus. Jesus has to show us. He has to lead us. He has to put His Love in us. What touched my heart so when I realized the path He has brought me down is how patient and kind and tender He has been waiting for ME to love HIM! The fear of God led me to the love of God.

Everything is backwards in this world. Everything. God's people do not even know that they cannot love Jesus without fearing Him first. They "say" they love Him, but it has been "put there" by men, not God. That is where Xnty has them. It puts such a comfort zone around them with all the ceremonies and works of the flesh making them think they are doing something for Jesus - loving Him through works. My, how they are being robbed! They don't know that if they will just fear Him, that He will bring them out and they WILL love Him.

There is a fear of flesh and there is a fear of God. God's children need the latter. In our OT studying I saw this:

"And Moses said unto the people, Fear not: for God is come to prove you, and that his fear may be before your faces, that ye sin not."

Brother John, His fear keeps us from sinning and drives us closer to His heart and His love. I am so thankful for what He has done for me. I never imagined that from where I started in the Lord it would become such a love story. But it is. Jesus has to teach us how to love Him. That love grows with every touch and every experience from Him.

No, I did not know that I would love Him this much, but I am so thankful that He was patient and kind and tender, loving me the whole way and waiting for me to return His love.

Psalms 9
[20] Put them in fear, O LORD: that the nations may know themselves to be but men. Selah.

God, save Your People!

Sister Sandy

Sandy:

God condemned those whose fear of God was "taught by the precept of men". It is much better to experience His power so that we may "know the terror of the Lord", as Paul did. The fear of God is a by-product of faith in God. And the love of God cast out all fear of, and all faith in anything but God. That is the "secret place of the Almighty", where we may safely hide from the wrath of God.

jdc

April 30, 2002

Greetings,

I just wanted to let you know I appreciate your website. I am one of those ex-christians who has been called out of the christian religion. At one time I was a minister, and really into all the christian games and politics. When I left that behind I lost all interest in Jesus and the Bible, but I was still a spiritual person, but lately God has demonstrated that there is a way to follow Jesus without the christian mess. Your site and that of Savelli has been an inspiration to me. It is good to know I am not alone.

God Bless,

Steve

Watch your thoughts,
they become words.
Watch your words,
they become actions.
Watch your actions,
they become habits.
Watch your habits,
they become character.
Watch your character,
for it becomes your destiny.

Steve:

My hope is that Jesus will heal the divisions that exist among his people. We will be honored if he allows us even a small part of that much-needed healing.

Thanks for letting me visit your web site. I could sense in it your sincerity and courage. It was a little too mystical for my heart to follow. It left too much of an open door for spirits to enter that are not of God, but I sensed no hatred or malice toward Xns that some non-Xn people have in their hearts and that comes through in their writings. How can we minister to people who have not yet heard the call to come out, if we despise and abuse them for being where they are?

Jesus taught me several years ago that Christianity is the Roman Empire wearing different clothes. The Roman Empire never did "fall" as the text books taught us; it merely altered its appearance. It traded the toga for ministerial vestments and renamed its officials to make them appear to be servants of Jesus. "The names have been changed to protect the guilty" is the phrase I use to describe the lovely snare that Satan devised against the earliest saints, using the military power of Rome to enforce his will.

If you will, I would be grateful for your prayers for me and the saints here that I can complete the book on that subject that God has put into my heart. It will be by far the biggest undertaking of my life, but it would liberate so many of God's precious children from the bondage of Xty. At best, it is still years away from completion.

Thanks again for the e-mail, and may God bless you and those with you.

jdc

April 22, 2002

Dear Pastor John,

"One thing that has been beating my mind about children of God claiming to be a Christians is this. In the whole bible (Genesis to Revelation) our Father, Jesus, the Spirit of God in His people like Paul and the rest believers used different words (friends, brothers, saints, etc) apart from the word Christian to describe the children of God. It beats my imagination how this single word (Christian) called in mockery to the believers now becomes the most acceptable and popular. Anyone who is not stupid, deceived and foolish should know that there is something evil behind that name. What foolishness would it be for me or anyone in good reasoning sense to think that evil men know how to give precious name (Christian) than Christ. Should we not take Jesus and the disciples words rather than those of the world?"

Pastor John, when I meet real children of God who claims to be a Christian, I use to ask them the above question. The truth is that they have never thought about that. I believe that if they can give that a thought the answer will surprise them.

JOE in Nigeria

Dear JOE:

In different words, I have also been trying for several years now to persuade God's people to consider the same issue. How did a sarcastic term invented by a skeptical world become a "sacred" title to God's people? No godly person would have ever puffed himself up to assume the name of Christ (Christian) for himself or his congregation.

The title of "Christian" was not gven to the saints by either God or a godly person. The religion of "Christianity" has been contrary to the will of God from its inception. I am glad you know these things.

jdc

One viewer's response to the email above follows:

Seems to me there is a parallel between ungodly people assuming the name of Christ and a certain one who thought he could "be like the most high". That is the spirit that inspires such foolish arrogance.

Damien (Australia)

Damien:

Precisely the point. That is why I tell people that Satan is the head of Xty, not Jesus.

jdc

Another viewer's response is as follows:

John:

The verse that comes to mind concerning the term "Christian" is the fact that Jesus said that "MANY would come in his name, saying the time draweth near" (Luk21:8). What other religion on earth IS there that has MANY people who are saying that JESUS COULD RETURN at any time? Thank God Jesus has given the cure: "therefore go ye not therefore after them."

I praise the Lord that he has sent the anointing that could destroy the yoke. Instead of trying to "fit in" to the religion of Xty as I did so hard for so many years, he sent an answer through you that God's children don't have to. And in doing that, we are actually obeying Jesus in a way we could never have thought of doing without God's help. It's so wonderful to know that it's all about God and what HE does for us! And my, He has done wonders.

Thank you Jesus!

Gary

Gary:

God's children will never feel completely clean anywhere inside Christianity (Xty) because Xty itself is, spiritually speaking, a filthy place, "the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird" (Rev. 18:2). God is going to destroy Xty for claiming to be His people , and that is why He is pleading with His dear children to flee from it. He wants all who love Jesus to escape the wrath that is coming on Xty, the Great Whore.

God help our brothers and sisters hear what we have heard from Christ before it is too late. Oh, how the love of God burns in my heart for them!

jdc

Pastor John

This morning we were talking with the kids about the fact that some animals went onto the ark by sevens. We told them they were called clean animals and began to talk about what that meant and I mentioned the fact that everything is clean to eat now. At this point the Lord gave Kay an insight. He said (as if to emphasize) that everything is now clean to eat except food offered to idols (as the scriptures instruct us) and top of that list was the bread and wine used in "communion". (Those are my words to relate it). I had never thought of communion in quite that context. It shows the depth of God's feelings about Xn communion. It is unclean, filthy and unacceptable to Him.

I had once been offered rice while in a Hindu temple in Malaysia by a man that my guide told me had completed some kind of personal purification ritual. I declined and I suppose had tended to think of this subject in terms of the typical pagan religions. Xtny is of course a pagan religion that merely claims the name of Jesus. Jesus keeps broadening our understanding of that religion and how it still remains under our fingernails, so to speak!

Damien

Damien and Kay,

Thanks. That is exactly right. We here have discussed that subject on numerous occasions over the years, and we know that to partake of Xn communion services is to partake of an unclean thing in the sight of God. Xn communion food and drink is indeed "meat offered to idols" because when that dead ceremony is observed, it honors Satan rather than Jesus.

Having said that, though, I want to add a caveat.

There is more potential for doing harm in the possession of the knowledge of the truth than in being ignorant of it. For example, no one but a man who knew Jesus intimately could have betrayed him. Only one of his disciples could have sold him out. When Jesus begins to reveal to us the mysteries of the gospel, and when he gives us the courage to dare to believe the awesome truth he has to give, we are more in danger than ever of being puffed up against our precious brothers and sisters who remain in the white-washed tomb of Xty.

The bread and wine of a Xn communion service is no holier than the rice of a Hindu temple, and it may in fact be more of an abomination to God because it is given to people in the name of Jesus, God's Son. The closer something comes to being the truth without being the truth, the more deceitful it can be and the more harm it can do to the souls of men. To proclaim any false religion is evil, but to proclaim a false religion in the name of the true Lord is a greater evil than that. So, I would have to say that it would have been safer for you to have eaten the Hindu rice (since they do not claim to be doing that because of Jesus) than to be a partaker in a Xn communion ceremony, since Xns claim to be performing that ritual in Jesus' name. It is wonderful to me to think that Jesus has rescued us from all of that, both Xn and non-Xn ceremonies. Praise God!

I hope that God continues to give us the grace to rejoice in His truth and to remember that whatever of His way He reveals to us, it is not for us that it is revealed but for those who are still in the darkness of Xn tradition!

Pastor John

March 14, 2002

George Clark wrote:

Dear John,

I have read several of the tracts, and find them very agreeable to what I believe. Why does you website say that you are a non-Christian organization? You seem like real Christians to me.

George Wesley Clark

Hi George:

Thanks for the inquiry. Anytime you ever have a question about anything I am doing or teaching. please ask it. I may have missed something important and need a brother's help! Yours is a good question, but one that (as you can guess) has been asked of me a zillion times.

You can click on the word "non-Christian" at the bottom of my web site's opening page (PastorJohnsHouse.com) for my personal testimony for "Why I am not a Christian". For more specific info on the truth about the religion of Xty and why God's children are being called out of it, go to my friend Gary Savelli's web site (Isaiah58.com) and click on "non-Christian" at the bottom of his opening page.

On Page 105 of the book I wrote on "The Apostate Fathers" is a rather complete history of the development of the word, "Christian". For that, try Isaiah.com/APOSTATE.HTM. I can't get it to come up tonight, but maybe you can. Hard copies are available below cost. We ask only that folks help us on the postage. There is never any profit made on any of our tapes, books, or tracts.

jdc

February 20, 2002

Gary S. forwarded this correspondence to us from his Isaiah58 web site:

Pastor John:

As the following letter indicates, God is really calling out to people. Hope they can hear it. I have included my response to this reader.

Gary

The reader asked, "Are you all affiliated with any group or are undenominational? I read a good book by Wilson Thompson about this same subject some months. He was an old school baptist writing in 1825 and he was getting a lot of flack over this same position. It seems this theory [of a Trinity] began at the council of Nice around AD 325. Grace be with you."

Dear friend:

Thank you for your question about our affiliations... it is one of the most frequent we receive. I hope my answer will bring you a peace and rest in Jesus.

You see, God's children, and those seeking the spirit of truth, have been influenced by the religion of "Christianity" for so long, that answering a question can be difficult, because the questions are so often based on "Christianity's" understanding of an issue (and not Jesus' understanding). So before I answer your question, I must clarify the real issue, which in fact is the message you have read on our web site that has evidently refreshed you.

Our message is simple - and is the message of the Spirit in this hour for the body of Christ: "come out of her my people" (Rev. 18). The Spirit is calling GOD'S people OUT of what John described in the book of Revelation, and the prophets described elsewhere - that is, out of a "religion" (spiritually - "Babylon"). So what religion is it that God's children have gone into, that God would have to call them out of it? The answer is also simple: "Christianity".

That is why your question is so good, if it has been asked with a heart longing for the truth. There may be something you are feeling that is hoping we will say "we are affiliated with none of them!" And that is how it is. We are NOT affiliated with Christianity. We are NON-Christian servants of Jesus Christ (that is, Spirit baptized believers, but we have NOT joined that religion). When Jesus baptized us with the holy Ghost (which is the way we get into the body of Christ - and the ONLY way), he did not baptize us into Christianity; rather, he baptized us into the body of Christ. Joining Christianity, or one of it's groups, is something that "people" do. Baptizing with the Spirit is something that Jesus does... and we want what Jesus does!

In doing that, Jesus set us free from having to hold to doctrines (such as the trinity and many others) which are NOT of God, but which Christianity uses as it's "crooked" measuring stick (to gauge which are its own or not.)

We are not Christians, and we are not affiliated with any of it's sects. However, we love God's children that are imprisoned there, and we are saying to every Spirit filled follower of Jesus, "come out". The way of perfect peace and joy is on the outside, where Jesus is. And we hope you will join us here!

If you have other questions, or are in need of good teaching materials, please contact me.

Best regards,
Gary Savelli
Isaiah 58 Broadcast
http://www.isaiah58.com

February 10, 2002

O Frank S wrote:

Good day Pastor John,

Thank God for making it possible for us all to see this year and even revealing more truths to His people through out the universe. I went to our village (i.e. eastern Nigeria) on 26th December last year safely and came back safely on 5-02-2002. I will like you all to join me in giving GOD the glory that is due to Him. Down in the village I met my former pastor and his assistant. From our discussions, I told them that Christianity is not of God and many more things. I was surprised to hear the pastor saying that many things they practice are irrelevant and yet they are not sins themselves, therefore no need stopping them or contributing more to the known ones.

Meanwhile, while talking to the assistant pastor, he told me that he now understood the message of John the Baptist in Matthew 3. in the first place, they taught him that water baptism is a “significance of acceptance”. And he also believes some truths but still insisted on saying that Christianity is of God. In fact to conclude it all, my former pastor told me that I am out of the track and I should stop communicating with you and others.

You can stop communicating with me anytime, but just don't stop talking, and listening, to Jesus.

I told him that stopping communicating with you and others will not stop the matter because the Spirit of God is at work in me and that is the will of God for me.

Amen!

I really thank God for everything for even through our discussions, I learnt more things.

Furthermore, pastor John, I want to ask a question. In the book of Joel 2:28-32, it was written that God says that he will pour on every flesh His Spirit that sons and daughters, old men and young men, shall prophesy, dream dreams, and see visions. Now pastor John, is that what is happening today or are we to expect its happening, for in Christianity they taught us that it is already happening . . .

Brother Frank, the fulfillment of that verse began on the day of Pentecost. Peter, you might remember, quoted that verse in his first sermon after being born again (Acts 2). The fall of the early saints into political entanglement with Rome and the subsequent rise of the religion of Christianity (Xty) stifled that holy work of the Spirit in men's lives, but we expect to see a revival of true holiness and power before the return of Jesus. That power will cleanse the Bride of Christ (the faithful among the saints) from the influence of Xty and will make us what we ought to be--a united and pure family before the Lord.

So, here and there, we will find individuals being filled with the Spirit. Thank God for that! We want to see millions filled with it--and so does Jesus!

. . . and even through it they taught that women teaching in the congregation whether as the pastor or as ordinary teacher of the Bible is the will of God. They teach that what the apostles are saying about women being silent in the assembly are for particular women in Corinth, not for women as a whole. Is that true pastor?

No, Brother Frank, it is not true. That Scripture wasn't written to the congregation at Corinth. Paul wrote it to Timothy while that young man was acting as pastor in Ephesus (1Tim. 2:12).

So far as women teachers are concerned, I am willing to listen to any man or woman--or even to an animal--who has been given something from God to say to me. But when a woman does, as Paul said, "usurp authority over the man" and begin to teach the saints, that is dangerous for anyone to hear. It is not allowed by God.

I have been very blessed and edified many, many times, by the testimonies of the women here. At the same time, I am responsible to oversee the well-being of the body, lest any one of these holy women ("weaker vessels", as Paul said) be lifted up in pride and begin to think she has been chosen to be a guide for the God's people.

I also seek counsel often from the older women as well as from the men in the body on perplexing issues along the way. I am thankful for the wise and pure women God has sent to be a part of the saints that meets in my home! They are precious to me--and to Jesus.

Thanks for reading my emails and I will be glad to receive the reply. Greet the Saints for me.

O Frank S

February 4, 2002

Marc Korf wrote:

hello John,

thank you very much for the correspondence! I was also greatly blessed by the Isaiah58 website, especially the '7 pillars' text touched me deeply. I live in Hollland (europe) and God is moving, more and more people begin to see and begin to experience an urgency to leave the organisation, looking for Jesus and real body-life! I really appreciate the efford you took for sending the emails,

thanx!
Marc

Marc:

I am happy that you responded. Most of the time when I send e-mails out like that, I get angry responses. But I know that there are sincere and hungry souls out there somewhere, and we are fishermen!

Stay in touch, and let us know if you have any questions about what we are doing here.

God bless you and those with you.

jdc

'Naaseh VeNishma' (we will do and then we will understand)

Marc:

I like this saying that you attached to your e-mail. It has been my experience that this is true. I don't think any of God's children can know the blessings that will follow their coming out of Xty until they obey God and do it. I do not believe that God will let any of us understand fully why we came out of Xty until after we obey His voice to "Come out of her, My people!". God seems to be determined that we prove ourselves worthy of our father Abraham by challenging our faith by calling us out without first telling us where we are going (cp. Heb. 11:8)!

Well, Amen! Let's go! And "let us run with patience the race that is set before us", waiting on God to tell us what steps to take next.

jdc

February 4, 2002

Thank you for your testimony of "Coming Out" that I found at the Isaiah58 web site.

It gave many confirmations about things God spoke of in the last months. This last week I ended the 'official membership' of a local church in the understanding that God is calling people out, like Lot, out of the city which will be judged. We are hungry for church life in Him. Shalom and thank you for making your testimony available, in Christ.

Marc

Dear Marc.

Thank you for letting us know that the gospel tract you read was some encouragement for you to obey God's call for His children to "come out of her my people."

As you hopefully already know, there is only one body of Chist. We must also learn that the body of Christ is not the religion of "Christianity." The body of Christ are all those people in whom the Spirit of God dwells.... those people who have received the baptism of the holy Ghost (with the initial evidence of speaking in other tongues) - for that is the baptism that puts us into the body of Christ (1Cor. 12:13).

You have merely left a gathering place where the truth was "not", and that is a good step in obeying the call of God. May we encourage you even further by forwarding our free New Birth Cassette Sampler Set to you? This will help you get a good start in your "new life" in Christ and will explain many of the truths which will keep your soul healthy and satisfied in Jesus... If so, just forward your name and address and we will send them at no cost.

Best regards,
Gary Savelli
Isaiah 58 Broadcast
http://www.isaiah58.com

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