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  • 1983 Message

    Pastor John,

    I listened to this message (below) the other day.  This was so good to me.  You remind me of Paul, just a different time.  I’m so thankful for the truth that you teach us, your zeal and your boldness. It’s just like in the Jerusalem Council, Jesus has to touch you.  He anointed you to teach us and then he has to anoint our hearts to take it in and love it.  What a miracle we are!

    January 2, 1983 meeting at Aunt Leatha’s house:

    “Discerning who’s who in the body of Christ”

    “Every one of us here is going to answer to God for the things that we’re teaching [and I am glad of it] because we didn’t make it up.  It’s too hard on the flesh to make up.  It’s too hard on the carnal mind to make this up.  You’ve got to die out to the flesh to say, “Yes, God, is this right !  I love it if it is God.”  And God will open your heart, and it will be the only thing you can take. Anything else will make you sick to hear.  You’ll understand it’s a sin to deliver a sermon and say it’s from God when it’s not. 

    “I can say, God, do you remember the time when I was there alone in that house and I was studying “name ” in the Bible, and you revealed to me about taking the Lord’s name in vain?  God, I remember the time when I was driving down to a meeting and the spirit of revelation fell on me and I saw the truth about the sacrifice of Christ.  God, do you remember the time you anointed me to preach the whole book of Galatians to Barbara and me in my own home, and you began to reveal to me about the works of the law?  You remember the time God, when you anointed me to write out a message on conversion and baptism, and when I had to read it in order to understand it myself, and you revealed to me that truth?  Do you remember the time, Lord, when you showed me about slander or about discerning the Lord’s body?  God, I confess all that before you.  And I’m going to thank God for the things I’m teaching.  And I’m trusting him to say, “Well done.”  I’m not the servant of man.  The things I’m teaching, I didn’t get from man.

    “God’s people are not taught to get their doctrine from God.  They’re not even taught to look for it there.  They think it’s already taken care of over at headquarters.  I thank God for these things in my life.  I wouldn’t have any life without them.  What would I teach if I didn’t teach what God taught me?  What would be left but confusion – exactly what is everywhere where God isn’t.  How can so many people have the Holy Ghost without seeing this?  You don’t get the Holy Ghost by knowledge; you get it by faith, and after you get the Holy Ghost, then you’re supposed to move into the place where you hear the truth and acknowledge it and discern who the teachers are, and who’s been anointed to say these things and who hasn’t. 

    “Sometimes you get to feeling alone.  You began to wonder to God, “Can’t you talk to anybody else but the few that I know?”  Elijah got so lonely that he prayed that God would take his life, and He did.  God said yes, but after he told Elijah he was going to take his life, he said, “But I do have 7000 in Israel that have not bowed the knee to Baal.”

    “It’s going to be hard on the flesh, and if you don’t think you have to die out to yourself to teach the truth, then you try it sometimes.   You don’t think you have to die out to the flesh to stand up boldly before people and praise God for this way?   You try it.”

    Michelle 

     

  • Perfecting the Son

    Hey, Pastor John!

    Recently I’ve been reading through Hebrews and I wanted to share a thought that was new to me to see if it’s right.

    In Hebrews 5:9, the writer refers to Jesus and says, “When he had been made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation to all who obey him.” If Jesus had been made perfect, that must mean that he was not “perfect” before that time.

    After reading that verse about Jesus being perfected, this was the new thought that I had: “God had more than one reason for sending His son: To perfect Jesus AND to open the door for us to receive the spirit.” I’m sure there were many other reasons too! Previously, when I’ve thought about Jesus coming down to earth, I’ve always thought about how God sent him for us. It was a completely new thought that God (it seems like) sent Jesus down here so He could make a way for us to receive his spirit AND so he could perfect Jesus at the same time. That was so neat to me! One of the next thoughts I had was even though Jesus’ name is above all names and he is at the right hand of God, he is still a child (the son) of God. He also had to be perfected in whatever way God saw fit. Something about that made me feel fellowship with Him and was sweet. Is that a right thought? 

    It seems like the main theme of chapter 5 is about the High Priest and how Jesus is ours. Since the author is talking about Jesus learning through the things he suffered and being perfected, do you think it’s right to conclude that one of God’s reasons for perfecting Jesus was so he could become the perfect High Priest for us? 

    Thinking about it now, it seems funny to think that God may have had only one purpose for sending Jesus here, but to think about God doing it for Jesus and for us was really something. I wanted to share those thoughts and see if they were right!

    Thank you!

    Samuel

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    Hi Samuel.

    Here is the section of Hebrews 5 (our translation) that you are talking about:

    1. This man, in the days of his flesh, offered with strong crying and tears both prayers and supplications to the One who was able to save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverence for God.
    2. For although he was a Son, he learned obedience by the things that he suffered,
    3. and when he had been made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation to all who obey him,
    4. ordained by God as a High Priest after the order of Melchizedek.

    It certainly does appear that what you are thinking is true, and I understand how it made you feel when you read it.  I have always thought that the author of Hebrews was thinking something else when he wrote, “When he had been made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation to all who obey him.”  I connected that verse with what Jesus said in Luke 13 (our translation):

    1. The same day, certain Pharisees came to him, saying, “Go away!  Leave here, for Herod wants to kill you!”
    2. And he said to them, “You go tell that fox, ‘Behold, I am casting out demons and performing healings today and tomorrow, and I’ll be finished on the third day.

    The word we translated as “finished” in verse 32 is the same verb we translated as “perfect” in Hebrews 5:9.  And that is how I have understood Hebrews 5:9 in the past, that is, as a reference to Jesus finishing his work, but I have to say, what you got from Hebrews 5:9, in context, seems sound.

    It is hard to understand, if the Son was created as the perfect reflection of the Father, how he would need to be perfected, or even how he could “learn obedience  by the things that he suffered.”  But that is what the Bible says, I believe it, even if I cannot comprehend it.

    Thanks for writing.  There is much that we all still have to learn

    Your servant,

    Pastor John

     

  • Tithes & Offerings book

    Good morning!

    I recently started reading your book Tithes & Offerings: The Right Relationship Between a Pastor and His Congregation. (Going to Jesus.com – Tithes and Offerings: The Right Relationship Between a Pastor and His Congregation)

    It really touched me when I read these sentences: 

    Pg. 37

    The way of Christ is simple and pure, and it works. He first raises up a man to represent him and to be a shepherd of souls. Then, he gives that shepherd a flock over which he is to watch and for which he must give account to God. To keep the shepherd free to do his work without unnecessary worldly distraction, the flock supplies the shepherd’s physical needs, while he supplies their spiritual needs.

    Pg. 39

    The whole nation (of Israel) benefitted by bringing God’s tithes to His priests and Levites because when the physical needs of those men were provided for, they were free to devote themselves to teaching the people how to please God and be blessed.

    Thank you for devoting your life to teaching us the things of God! God has taught you, you teach us and our lives are truly overflowing with blessings! We are ‘us’ because you listened & continue to listen to Jesus. You have taught us & you continue to teach us. When we take in those things we live a life beyond this world..a life beyond what we ever dreamed would be possible on this earth!

    Thank you does not seem like the right words but perhaps in the English language it’s the best we have!

    I hope you get to feeling better soon.

    Amanda

     

  • Theophilus

    Hi,

    Do we know who Theophilus is? 

    Luke writes to him in Luke 1:3-4, calling him “most excellent” and says he’s writing so he “might know the trustworthiness of the things you have been taught.”

    Again, in Acts 1:1, Luke is addressing Theophilus.

    Thanks,

    Danielle

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    No Danielle, we do not know.

    There are two possibilities.  First, Theophilus might have been a person.  And since Luke calls him “most excellent”, that seems to have been the case.  There is a second possibility, however.  The Greek word “theophilus” means “friend of God”, and so, Luke could have been writing to whoever was a friend of God.  But I think the first option is the better one.

    That is all the information I have to give you.

    Thank you for asking.  It is exciting to discover new questions as we read the Bible.  I am glad to see you doing it.

    Pastor John 

  • Righteous Judgment

    Good morning,

    I’ve listened to this sermon several times, and it is so valuable that I wanted to have it written out.  Probably has some typos, but the message is wonderful!

    Debbie T.

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    Transcript from Sunday, Oct. 18, 2026.

    So in 1981 when the Lord spoke to me about Him being in charge of all things for us, he perfected some good ideas in me that weren’t perfect.  One was that He wouldn’t ever let me say that He allowed this or He allowed that to happen.  I couldn’t say that anymore.  It would come into my mind, the way it had done many times before, but the Spirit would stop it.  God was saying to me, “I’m more in charge than that.  I design what happens to you.”  Our heavenly Father does not just stand back and allow things to happen to us.

    Sue, that was a beautiful testimony,  but let me perfect part of it, the way the Lord perfected my thinking.  

    You said, “When you’re going through something, God will give you the faith to overcome it.”  But the truth is, when you’re going through something, God has already given you the faith to overcome it.  That’s why it has come, because He’s already given you the faith to overcome it.  That small, perfecting tweak is the difference the Voice made when it came to me.  Instead of God as a reactor to everything that happens to us, He’s the designer of everything.  You already have what you need to go through what you’re going through this coming week.  It’s already there.  Praise God.  And when you go through something, it’s just to build up your faith and make it stronger.  Isn’t that right, Sue?  He’s a perfect Father.

    Who was it in the Bible that said,  “Try the spirits?”  Who said that?  John said it in first John, in his first letter.  “Try the spirits”, means to judge them to see if they’re of God.  But how are you going to do that?  Early on, when I was young in the Lord, I realized as I talked with different people who did not receive the truth that somehow, somebody had put on their hearts, like a little plaque or something, “Judge  by This.”  It was a doctrine of the Trinity.  And they judged people by that false standard.  To them, if you didn’t believe in the Trinity, you were a cult.  And that would be the end of the conversation.   I realized I couldn’t get through to them because they were judging the things I said by the standard they had been persuaded to engrave on their hearts.

    The value of the truth to your life is that it enables you to judge things rightly, including the spirits that talk to you.  Some spirits sound sweet, but the truth gives a right standard to judge by.  And you will judge all things rightly if you have the Spirit of Truth.  You judge people by God’s Spirit, for in it are His knowledge, the knowledge  of God.  The truth enables you to judge rightly, to do what Jesus said in John chapter 7: “Judge righteous judgment.”  Now, Jesus knew those disciples couldn’t do that yet because the Spirit had not yet come, but he told them, ‘’When the spirit is come, it’ll remind you of everything I have said.”

    The truth is valuable for your whole life, for judging situations at work, at school, at home.  How can you judge things rightly if you don’t know the truth?  You know for yourselves that when you meet God’s people, they cannot judge you rightly if they’re going by a false standard somebody talked them into engraving on their heart.  That’s why you can be merciful, because that’s the best they can do.  They can’t judge rightly.  But you have something to rejoice about because you know the truth.  You can judge rightly if you take in the truth, and God’s already given it to you.  When He gave you the Holy Ghost, He wrote the truth on your heart.  Don’t cover it over with somebody’s “good idea”.  Your answer is in the Spirit that God has given you.  “Judging righteous judgment” means judging according to what the Spirit tells you.  And it is the Spirit of truth.  You can judge nations righteously.  Paul said we’re even going to judge angels.  You’re going to judge angels use and you’re going to be put in a position (you already are but it’s not manifested yet) above the angels.

    As a human born in this world, you were a little lower than the angels.  But not now.  Now you’re joint heirs with Christ and you’re going to reign with him, and he is the King of angels, which means you’re going to be princes and princesses  over angels, judging them.  Paul asked the Corinthians, “If you are not able to judge situations in this life, how are you going to judge the world?”  God sends our way conflicts and misunderstandings and people with different ways of dealing with life to train us to judge righteous judgment so that we might qualify to be good rulers with Jesus.  We already have the answer to every problem God’s going to send if we will only listen to what the Spirit is saying to our hearts, if we’ll judge by the spirit instead of by the flesh.  You have the answer.  Your heart already knows.  

     

  • Stephen in Acts 7

    Hey Pastor John.

    When we read Acts 7 last night and read about Stephen I had the same feelings I had about Hannah in 1Samuel.

    I had always read right over Hannah’s story until I listened to you teach about her in an Old Testament  class.*  I love her faith and steadfastness to God.  I fell in love with her!  She’s one I hope to meet one day.

    After reading about Stephen last night I just could not get past him.

    We don’t know anything about him until Acts 7 but wow!  After reading, I kept thinking of him being brought before the high priest and answering the charges against him.  That took something!  I thought what strength and encouragement it was for him to look up and see Jesus standing beside God!  I thought about what you said this morning about Paul and what kept him going was his love for Jesus.  That surely had to be in Stephen’s heart too.

    To know that kind of love!  Whew!

    Michelle

    *https://goingtojesus.com/ot/gtj_otcourse-1010.html

  • Paul’s age

    Hey Pastor John.

    Leanne, Danielle and I started our study of Paul this evening.  We’re discovering we have questions as we go along and thought we would write you and get all of our questions to you.  We just started reading and it’s already feeling exciting!

    Our first question is, how old was Paul when he received the Holy Ghost and started preaching?

    Thanks,

    Michelle

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    Hi Michelle.

    I am happy to hear you ladies are doing this Bible study.  It is worth doing.  There are many spiritual benefits in it.

    As for your question, the Bible never gives a specific age for Paul, or for any other apostle, for that matter.  In a letter to Timothy, Paul calls himself “aged”, and in Acts7, where you have been reading, Paul is said to be a young man.  That’s all we are ever told about Paul’s age.

    However, since the story of Paul’s baptism with the holy Ghost comes soon after Acts 7, I assume that he was still a young man.  That is the best answer that I, or anyone, can give you on that.

    Again, let me encourage you to continue learning about Paul.  What a great man of God he was!

    Pastor John

  • The Unaltered Truth

    Hey Pastor John!

    The other night I finish reading God Had a Son Before Mary Did book.*  After I closed the book, I had a flood of emotions.  I didn’t expect to feel all the feelings that came.  I immediately got on my knees and just cried out to Jesus to help me take in everything I had just read.  I wanted every part of my being to take in and be completely saturated with the truth.  The feelings were so deep and so sobering!  I’ve been thinking /feeling these feelings for days. 

    This morning, I watched the video that Vince posted, “The True History of Christianity”, and was overwhelmed again!  I thought, if Jesus never does anything for me again, knowing this truth is everything; it is complete and we are complete in it!

    Thank you, Pastor John for teaching me the pure unaltered truth!  It has saved my life and it keeps saving me!

    Michelle 

    *Going to Jesus.com – God Had A Son Before Mary Did

  •  Ephesus and Your First Love

    Good morning!

    I watched the link you sent us about Ephesus (https://youtu.be/CcemMtXm9Ns?is=2MD4AdAUqfnZMoJi)  and what it would have looked like.  It was interesting to see the places that Paul traveled and how things would have looked when he was there in Ephesus.  After watching the video, I wanted to read Ephesians.  So, I did. And I ended up reading the whole book.  It was so good.  And such a beautiful love letter from Paul to his precious saints in Ephesus.

    When I finished, it stood out to me how Paul started his letter establishing an order.  First, his tells who God is, then he tells who the Son is, and then, he says who the body of Christ is, and then, he goes further to husbands and wives, and children. In chapter 5, Paul then says, “This is a great mystery, but I am talking about Christ and the Assembly of God.”  When I read that, this came next, “that he himself might present it [the body of Christ], with himself, as a glorious Assembly without spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing, but that it might be holy and blameless.”  I felt so much love in that.  The whole letter was full of love.  And at the end, Paul asked for prayer “that something might be given to him so that he might open his mouth boldly to make known the mystery of the gospel.”  That touched me.  For Paul to write such a letter to the Ephesians meant he thought a lot of them.

    Next, I looked up Ephesus and wanted to read what was said about it and Paul.  I read over the instances that were mentioned, but the last one was in Revelation 2:4 when Jesus was talking to the pastor of Ephesus.  Jesus said: “I have something against you because you have forsaken your first love.”  I read the whole message to the pastor there and it said, “I know your works, and your labor, and your patience, and that you cannot tolerate those who are evil.  And you have put to the test those who make themselves out to be apostles but are not, and you have found them liars.  And you have patience, and you endured for my name’s sake and did not grow weary.”  But, he said, “I have against you that you have left your first love.” But Jesus had something against the pastor there and told him that he was going to remove his candlestick if he didn’t return to his first love.

    That stood out to me.  I wanted to see what Jesus was saying to this pastor that was going to cause him to possibly lose something God had given him. So, I looked through your writings to find where/what you have written about that.  And I found a two-part series on “Your First Love”.  I sat down and read them.  You describe this pastor there in Ephesus and what Jesus was saying.  He had done all those things: been patient, endured hardships, didn’t tolerate evil, etc., but he did not remain humble in his attitude toward others who had gone astray or had faults and would not receive correction.  He became puffed up.  Even with all the “right” things that were done, because of his attitude, Jesus was not pleased.

    It was very good to read what you wrote here and be reminded of what our first love is.  It’s easy to get caught in the trap that you see something which someone else doesn’t see; it is easy for your flesh to get stuck in what you know.  That doesn’t allow for mercy.  I love the scripture you quoted in this article, “The love of God is spread abroad in our hearts by the holy Spirit that He has given us.”  If we stay full of the Spirit and let the holy Ghost lead us in our thoughts and actions, we will have so much love in our hearts, that’s the only thing that can come out from us.  You also said that it works both ways, and the Spirit gives us the power to reject error – which led me to Jesus!  Your first love is Jesus.  The feelings he gave you when he first touched your heart and the love you felt for him and feel for him now as you realize how much he has loved you in your journey with him.  That will keep the holy Ghost alive in you!

    I followed the trail this morning.  I was thankful to feel and know these things.  Jesus is the point.  And the love we have for him will compel us to be a part of the body of Christ Jesus wants to present to his Father without spot or wrinkle, holy and blameless.  I attached the article.

    Amy B.

    Your First Love

  • Sunday Morning

    Pastor John,

    I had to watch the meeting this morning from home.

    Your message today to the young people was not from this world. The experience I had let me know that it came from Jesus.  About halfway through your message, the Spirit of God in me allowed me to feel and understand that what you were saying, the Spirit you were under was 100% Jesus and 0% you.  I felt and could hear the holy Ghost in me bearing witness and weighing the words you were speaking.  I felt each word being measured and the Spirit let me feel, and told me that it was perfect.  I don’t like saying that because those words, to my ear, sound like I am saying I was judging something about you, but I wasn’t.  I was witnessing it happen.  That has never happened to me before.  My spirit from Jesus was doing it all, and I was allowed to feel and hear the Spirit’s judgment, and I was almost holding my breath as it went on.  When you spoke the last word, I felt the last word weighed, and I knew I had heard a message that was unmixed.  There was nothing you said that didn’t come from Jesus.  I know so; the Spirit told me that it was so.

    I then considered what Aaron said this morning after he had finished his song, and I knew that what Aaron had described, having zero of ourselves withheld and everything in the light is how to get there.  It is the path to perfection.  What Aaron described is how one makes themselves available to Jesus to be worthy and able to deliver such a message to God’s people.  Aaron described the path to being of a single mind, a single eye as Jesus had described.

    Jerry

     

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